In some dystopian future I see, they might put them in a "nursing home" that most other people can't access and in there they'd kill the old ppl
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LuoirM
Cipiteca396
I think the easiest way to satisfy the moral compass is to get rid of the concept of 'life's purpose'. Then you don't have to feel like you're a waste of space just because someone else has to take care of you, or because you have to take care of someone else...
LuoirM
THANK YOU
melchi
Um, isn't this eugenics ?
NotaNuffian
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greyblob
this screams im 14 and just knew about mein kampf
LuoirM
I don't know Mein Kampf but you just convinced me to read it 
LuoirM
What I'm saying is old people are useless and it's just a moral thing to take care of them as child, if we find a way to deal with them that don't make the people riot, society would progress so, so much faster. Like pass the age of 60 it's mandatory to walk through an incendiary grenade
Isn't that about genes? I don't think it's related, or I'm just not looking far enough
What I'm saying is old people are useless and it's just a moral thing to take care of them as child, if we find a way to deal with them that don't make the people riot, society would progress so, so much faster. Like pass the age of 60 it's mandatory to walk through an incendiary grenade
melchi
This has to be trolling right? Eugenics is what the nazi party used to justify their actions. Inferior portions of humanity should be culled so the more superior ones can thrive. Do they not teach this in history class anymore?
LuoirM
I don't think it's the same, because the nazi justified another race as being inferior. While I state that old people, no matter what they did in their life; they could be an astronaut, veteran, beggar, white collar, time-machine builder blue collar,... All after reaching a certain age that they can not provide for society and instead need provide (attention/medical equipment/retirement paycheck),
LuoirM
, they should be somehow deal with, without making the people mad, because outright opposite-of-resurrect them would cost would inevitably make people sad (riots and complaints and protests and shit).
LuoirM
Aging is something universal, you can not seregate age
melchi
I think that your teacher didn't do a good job of teaching about the Nazi atrocities if you think it was just about race being inferior. While they took it up a step thinking people with certain traits are superior anyone with defects were subject to culling. They euthanized anyone with down syndrome for example.
melchi
In the middle ages it was not just old people. Like the story Hansel and grettel the whole premise was that the parents didn't have enough food to feed their family. So they just sent them off to go starve in the woods where they found a witch.
Children are useless if you can't keep them fed. It is the same logic.
Children are useless if you can't keep them fed. It is the same logic.
LuoirM
I don't understand the colleration you find between white supremacist; nazi deliberately keeping their own people while killing those who they don't like, and me suggesting that killing old people who after reaches a certain age zone (70?) where biologically humans cease to function to ease the burden of the younger generation having to spend time and resource on them for better causes is related
Cipiteca396
Try this then; Forget about the nazis.
Do you really think it's moral to kill innocent people?
Your cut off age of 70, would result in the loss of two or three entire decades of life, PER PERSON.
A lot can happen in that amount of time. I think a lot of people on this forum haven't even spent that much time alive yet. Cutting off that amount of potential because it's slightly inconvenient is not good.
Do you really think it's moral to kill innocent people?
Your cut off age of 70, would result in the loss of two or three entire decades of life, PER PERSON.
A lot can happen in that amount of time. I think a lot of people on this forum haven't even spent that much time alive yet. Cutting off that amount of potential because it's slightly inconvenient is not good.
LuoirM
I realized it's immoral and just plain evil, that's why in my suggestion there's a part where I'd say "to please the common moral compass"
A slightly inconvenient, as you said, but it's built up in 2 or 3 decades as you also said, can be a lot of inconvenience, per person.
And in the future the cost for medical equipment (overpopulation means more old and more demands..) this would be a very heavy thing very soon
A slightly inconvenient, as you said, but it's built up in 2 or 3 decades as you also said, can be a lot of inconvenience, per person.
And in the future the cost for medical equipment (overpopulation means more old and more demands..) this would be a very heavy thing very soon
Cipiteca396
It's really not that 'heavy' at all. If you're really worried about it, try thinking of ways to help instead of harm.
I think there's a local(?) program where the elderly take care of young children while their parents are working. This sort of thing is helpful. Think of solutions like that.
I think there's a local(?) program where the elderly take care of young children while their parents are working. This sort of thing is helpful. Think of solutions like that.