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Representing_Tromba
Representing_Tromba
Much of the comic book industry is suffering due to this. Manga is doing incredibly well but American comics are not. Demon slayer alone sold over 100 million copies worldwide while American comics can barely reach 200 thousand. Print isn't dead as many mediums have printed copies that sell but American comics are very much dying.
owotrucked
owotrucked
Entertainment evolve and refine to become always more appealing to the audience, tackling trendy genres, appealing styles, tight pacing.

American comics don't really pursue this appeal.

Independent artists are free to do whatever though. They're not tied down to any sort of cultural/style identity and can produce super based comics.
Representing_Tromba
Representing_Tromba
That's what a lot of the sources are saying. American Comics just don't want to go with that appeal since they have their own agendas.
Nahrenne
Nahrenne
If I had to say, probably due to how expensive the comics have become both to produce and to purchase, as well as the fact that those hired to make the comics are talentless and have no idea how to write a good story.
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Representing_Tromba
Representing_Tromba
The price has a lot do with it. Your second statement is also 100% correct according to every source I've found.
SakeVision
SakeVision
I'll tell you why

Because it's shit, that's why

I stopped reading American comic books when I was 10, and after that, I thought comic books are all childish shit like superhero before I discovered manga
SakeVision
SakeVision
That being said, I also thought that anime and manga is childish shit like dragonball z, until I investigated topic more closely. Perhaps there are great American comics but they are invisible under the flood of capeshit.
SakeVision
SakeVision
also, american artists can't into panneling and the omnipresent coloring often hurts the story
owotrucked
owotrucked
The jp publisher scout their talent through contests and get many applicants. Novels build their success from the churned mountains of webnovels. And then mangas get the unfair advantage of being an adaptation of a successful novel and then anime to promote it even more.

The difference of volume of artists and barrier entry favors jp media. But the competition might leave jp authors/artists' corpse on the side road
T.K._Paradox
T.K._Paradox
Anything that bashes you over the head with an agenda instead of entertainment, in the entertainment industry is automatically garbage.

You just have to seem non partisan about the issue. And not lean into the bias too much or else you'll get a F.
T.K._Paradox
T.K._Paradox
Though you can imply the people with star wars level text crawls in their Twitter bio are the cause of the failure of the comic industry.
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Deleted member 19066
My point of view is that print was on the decline before the “SJW”, the change in the industry is a reaction to it dying and not the cause of the decline. The idea the cause is “SJWs and the push for representation”, is a constructed narrative, a soft form of 'moral panic'.
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Deleted member 19066
Tho a study on how SJW actually influence an industry would be an interesting paper. But ultimately they can’t, to an industry all social elements are just numbers on a board.

It is no more true than to say, “sex addicts” are killing the industry in the 90s. Or “Mixed race” in the 80s, “communism” in the 50s or “war profiteers” in the 30s-40s.
TheTrinary
TheTrinary
It's obviously due to the complete recycling of old ideas. How many iterations of Batman are there? 90% of American comics are the recycling of the same idea 1M times over.

For all purposes, the comic book medium never grew out of its infancy. Comic books were never about authors creating something they felt strongly about. It was business men in suits figuring out how to sell toys.
TheTrinary
TheTrinary
The corporate think tank thinks new properties are riskier than old. That gimmicks will create a short term profit. Every critique you can have is from profit driven executives making bank in the short term and then unable to move away from that.
TheTrinary
TheTrinary
It's happening in movies as we speak. Theaters are becoming Super Hero places. In 20 years, they will still be pumping them out at massively reduced profit because that's the industry they know. And then we'll ask, why does no one go to American movies now' a days.
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Deleted member 19066
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Deleted member 19066
Interestingly relevant
And even tho the sale of the top 750 paperback comics of 2021 is more than 2018 and 2019 combined, approx 400 of the 750 are manga. Rather than SJW it is more viable to see the audience's attraction to manga instead.
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Deleted member 19066
in other words "GODDAMN WEEBS!!!" :blobrofl: :blobrofl: :blobrofl:

Manga sales:

Year # of placing titles in top 750Unit sales Calculated Retail Value
20203585,419,328$77,703,520
202149515,945,960$218,310,280
Representing_Tromba
Representing_Tromba
Manga was one of the leading causes of lost sales. There's no denying that. Though a lot of the issues that fans were bringing up had to do with SJW stuff and many of them said that they switched to manga to get away from it.
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