Writing What do you think about yandere villainess as an antagonist to the protagonist?

Assurbanipal_II said:

Oh, I was pinged.

I am sceptical. I do not think that the reduction of a villainess to her core trait being infatuated supposedly with a man is a good idea. Why would you define her solely through her love? Is that not a tad too simplistic?

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My protagonist is female (I rarely write male protagonists). Also, the relationship between the antagonist and protagonist isn't based on lust, more like an overprotective older sister who won't hesitate to eliminate any potential threats to their relationship.

Eldoria said:

My protagonist is female (I rarely write male protagonists). Also, the relationship between the antagonist and protagonist isn't based on lust, more like an overprotective older sister who won't hesitate to eliminate any potential threats to their relationship.

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I see ... But do you want her antagonism on that relationship? Do you not run the risk of making her a mere appendix by making her a yandere? She will be forever be bound to the MC by default, if you get what I mean.

Assurbanipal_II said:

I see ... But do you want her antagonism on that relationship? Do you not run the risk of making her a mere appendix by making her a yandere? She will be forever be bound to the MC by default, if you get what I mean.

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Yandere is just a plot device. Imagine an OP older sister starting a war, killing hundreds of thousands, even millions, only to find her sister hiding from her.

Eldoria said:

Yandere is just a plot device. Imagine an OP older sister starting a war, killing hundreds of thousands, even millions, only to find her sister hiding from her.

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If you only go the trope, it is another discourse entirely. As you might know, I am more of representative of a more serious school of story telling.

Assurbanipal_II said:

If you only go the trope, it is another discourse entirely. As you might know, I am more of representative of a more serious school of story telling.

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I've only presented the surface or the story's packaging in the form of tropes. Beneath the narrative's surface lies a subtext with profound thematic depth, even touching on sensitive topics. Of course, that's beyond the scope of this thread.

I'd simply like to hear other authors' opinions regarding yandere villainess.

I enjoy reading and writing villainess stories. With the villainess as the main character.

Good, only if you can fix her.

You reminded me of the whole yandere sister thing who ended up following MC to the other world, possessing any women to haunt MC and him ended up having a psychotic breakdown.

I am not a fan to yandere anything.

Eldoria said:

What do you think about yandere villainess as an antagonist to the protagonist?

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Surprisingly reasonable progression, or unsurprisingly reasonable, depends on your perspective.

Of course someone like the 'protagonist' wouldn't accept all the horrible actions from the yandere villain/villainess, even in the name of love-driven-obsession.

At some point, the 'protagonist' would re-consider the yandere him/her as the antagonist, Usually when the yandere goes too far.

Like Batman and the Joker, then. Lol.
Sorry, I got excited and thought it was gonna be enemies-to-lovers.

Personally my story doesn't follow light-novel style tropes, but my story's "villainness", I suppose, starts off with a cheery, flirty and unserious demeanour, then quickly reveals a violent, possessive obsession with the protag, which looks like yandere, but the wiki I read states though that real yandere must be a sickness born from A's love for B—while her obsession is a result of a warped attachment style born from childhood trauma.

So I guess there is a distinction between a yandere-inspired character VS the fictional, archetypal yandere character.

Either way I fw the dynamic heavy tho as a writer and reader. So much you can do with these character bases and their relationship. Either redeem and evolve, contaminate and spiral, inspire or destroy, or all of the above? Your ideas sound really interesting, as well.

Eldoria said:

What do you think about yandere villainess as an antagonist to the protagonist?

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I'm not a fan of yanderes. I don't mind them being in stories, I'm just going to cheer for whoever's fighting against them.

If I had any thoughts beyond that, it would be "What do they want out of their target and why aren't they getting it by now?" A lot of yanderes in anime get really obsessed over the MC seemingly just because they're the MC and it's an innate feeling. Sometimes it doesn't feel like the MC would be the type to turn her down except it has to happen to keep up the cat and mouse dynamic instead of them just being together. It can add a lot of depth to the dynamic if the yandere actually has something specific they want to get out of the MC beyond just "being together".

There is a yandere in my current story who's obsessed with a central character that's not the MC. It gives me a way to show the yandere obsessive dynamic from an outsider's perspective, as the MC gets to see just how abusive the dynamic can be. Especially since the other character had been hiding from the yandere and was unfortunate enough to be found.