Well, I might start posting here after all.

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They're romances. Fanfic very loosely based on Twilight.
OMG, we're going to get another "50 Shades of Grey."

But in the forum I was bullied and pig piled by the writers. And this morning I got notified of a three day ban.
So on March 10, when my ban expires, I'm going to take my fiction down and ask my readers to come here. Maybe a few will. Maybe not.
Keep posting your fiction there. It's an older, larger site so it has more readers. Just start crossposting here (post your story in both places) and stop using RR's forum entirely; you aren't the only one who has run into the crybully cliques.

his "powers" come from sexuality (primarily BDSM) and she's an "innocent" who learns to like it
I can understand why he hates it, but from what I've heard of the story, he might be misunderstanding it. I've been told that in the story the man is a submissive bottom that was only pretending to be a dom early in the story because his previous dom had broken his heart. The story is about the girl starting out as his sub and slowly learning more about him until she's the one domming him (a popular female fantasy, to have control over a malleable/pliable femboy/twink).
 

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@GearMagical good post and interesting take!

So I agree but only to a point. I grew up on Twilight, so I'm not that old. And yes, I think most of the writers on the forums are a little bit older than they are trying to appear. But on the other hand, you gotta remember that my books aren't popular here. Or anywhere. I've been and gone from Inkitt, Wattpad, Quotev, R-R, and more. My stuff got great reviews and ratings in those places... from the few people who bothered to read them. Typically the LitRPG and Game-Inspired fiction is a lot more popular in most of these places. And that's definitely a younger crowd.
My vocal readers all seem to be in their mid thirties in to their 60s-70s. My MC is an old guy, so I am referencing a bunch of old shit that most seem to get lol.

Just remember most SH readers are quiet lol
Love this post. Me too, as to reviewers. I get robust comments and constructive critique from my readers, but I can tell that they're all older. They know how to write letters. They understand novel structure and give the plot time to develop. The kiddies just don't have the patience. And their comments reflect that fact. Typically a word or two at most, or more likely one or two acronyms. So easy to tell the kids who grew up on texting and have never written a personal letter to anyone.

Adding to this post to thank everyone on this thread. All of you, too many names to mention. Thank you.
 
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@GearMagical good post and interesting take!

So I agree but only to a point. I grew up on Twilight, so I'm not that old. And yes, I think most of the writers on the forums are a little bit older than they are trying to appear. But on the other hand, you gotta remember that my books aren't popular here. Or anywhere. I've been and gone from Inkitt, Wattpad, Quotev, R-R, and more. My stuff got great reviews and ratings in those places... from the few people who bothered to read them. Typically the LitRPG and Game-Inspired fiction is a lot more popular in most of these places. And that's definitely a younger crowd.

Love this post. Me too, as to reviewers. I get robust comments and constructive critique from my readers, but I can tell that they're all older. They know how to write letters. They understand novel structure and give the plot time to develop. The kiddies just don't have the patience. And their comments reflect that fact. Typically a word or two at most, or more likely one or two acronyms. So easy to tell the kids who grew up on texting and have never written a personal letter to anyone.

Adding to this post to thank everyone on this thread. All of you, too many names to mention. Thank you.
Well, if you do join this forum, know this. Whenever someone asks for a review in the forums, my review will always be "needs more smut" or "needs more futas." Don't take those as serious reviews; I'm just joking that "SmutHub" is for smut.
 

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Thanks for the warning AnonJohn, lol! No worries, I never ask for reviews. My book got approved a little while ago, so it's up. I'll post a few chapters every couple days until it's all up on the site. But I'm not asking anyone to read it. A long non-smutty romance. I honestly don't know why I bother. :D
 

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I've got three finished novels to post. And working on a fourth. They're romances. Fanfic very loosely based on Twilight.

I've been lurking here for a couple months. In the forums. I like everyone I've met. And even though I can be a cantankerous, somewhat acrimonious sort of person, I've found most of you are, too. So I haven't met anyone here that I can't hang with. People here seem to be mature enough to get my dry sense of humor, and I don't have to be apologizing for it all the time.

I'm kind of hoping the readers here will also have an average age somewhat north of 14. And a bit of maturity. As opposed to other places I've been-and-gone in the past year. There's only one way to find out! :s_smile:

Currently my fiction is down to one venue: the little site with two R's in its name. Got followers, unsolicited reviews, high ratings that I didn't get through swaps. So the readers like me. But in the forum I was bullied and pig piled by the writers. And this morning I got notified of a three day ban.

For "toxicity in the forums."

Because I had the nerve to defend myself against those bullies. ("Premium members"... squeaky wheels... oh well. City hall and clicques: can't fight'em.)

So on March 10, when my ban expires, I'm going to take my fiction down and ask my readers to come here. Maybe a few will. Maybe not.
so? come here.
incubate here. editing your works. maybe making new ones.
polishing your schtick that seems to already work, and resonate with readers.
maybe, one day you'll go back.
new account. throw up something awesome.
no talking in the forums. no shouts and swaps. no ads.
and have the last laugh.

true story:
one of the break out hits one year, was "max level archmage".
MLA, because everything needs an acronym or its not cool. Thanks, internet.

but? MLA didn't play by the rules. They just... tossed the big web novel up on five WN sites, and that was it.
no ads. no shouts, no swaps.
next thing you know? it was the break out hit.
author made something like 90k a *month* on patreon for it at first.
a year and a half, getting on however long later... down to "only" like 10k a month.

it can happen. big readership, big financial success. all word of mouth rec's.

the author is set for life, if they didn't waste that money.

who knows. That, could be you next time.
and they'll never know what hit them.
 

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so? come here.
incubate here. editing your works. maybe making new ones.
polishing your schtick that seems to already work, and resonate with readers.
maybe, one day you'll go back.
new account. throw up something awesome.
no talking in the forums. no shouts and swaps. no ads.
and have the last laugh.

true story:
one of the break out hits one year, was "max level archmage".
MLA, because everything needs an acronym or its not cool. Thanks, internet.

but? MLA didn't play by the rules. They just... tossed the big web novel up on five WN sites, and that was it.
no ads. no shouts, no swaps.
next thing you know? it was the break out hit.
author made something like 90k a *month* on patreon for it at first.
a year and a half, getting on however long later... down to "only" like 10k a month.

it can happen. big readership, big financial success. all word of mouth rec's.

the author is set for life, if they didn't waste that money.

who knows. That, could be you next time.
and they'll never know what hit them.
It didn't just happen. I've read about 100 chapters , maybe 250,000 words before taking an extend pause. Much of it's success is because, for what it is, it is done exceptionally well.
 

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Some of us might have gotten banned from writing reviews on kindle unlimited stories.

Apparently parallel prose or run on sentences is hate speech or something. The issue is not the complete lack of quality control in the biggest book company on the planet.

Should fit in fine.
 

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maybe a lot of writers are here, just because they got kicked around somewhere else.
I know I am.
what's the old clay-mation they still play around christmas every year for kids?
"the island of misfit toys".

maybe, we're "the island of misfit writers".

I just don't want to be a dentist... lol
It didn't just happen. I've read about 100 chapters , maybe 250,000 words before taking an extend pause. Much of it's success is because, for what it is, it is done exceptionally well.
I (twice) read the first chapter of MLA.
because where I came from, someone would always link to it.
"Here. this is how a first chapter of an Isekai LitRPG is done right!"

had to read that.
even if its not my style of what to read, with that build up how could I resist the first chapter.
 
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maybe a lot of writers are here, just because they got kicked around somewhere else.
I know I am.
what's the old clay-mation they still play around christmas every year for kids?
"the island of misfit toys".

maybe, we're "the island of misfit writers".

I just don't want to be a dentist... lol

I (twice) read the first chapter of MLA.
because where I came from, someone would always link to it.
"Here. this is how a first chapter of an Isekai LitRPG is done right!"

had to read that.
even if its not my style of what to read, with that build up how could I resist the first chapter.
Very OP female MC (I like) w/Zero smut (shrug) I just worked.
 

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I can understand why he hates it, but from what I've heard of the story, he might be misunderstanding it. I've been told that in the story the man is a submissive bottom that was only pretending to be a dom early in the story because his previous dom had broken his heart. The story is about the girl starting out as his sub and slowly learning more about him until she's the one domming him (a popular female fantasy, to have control over a malleable/pliable femboy/twink).
He hated the first book so much he didn't finish it. I haven't read any of them myself (keep thinking of picking up Twilight when I see it at the discount shelf but always find something better to spend the money on - I've heard Meyers actually was "coming into her own" as a writer with the third book, and the fourth might have been good enough to justify her success if it hadn't been leaked by a "friend" when 1/3 finished and she just lost interest - have heard her second series was very well written, but just never really found an audience, even if it did get a film adaptation).
And I'm old enough that if my characters make references to the 80s, that was their childhood but my teen years...
 
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maybe a lot of writers are here, just because they got kicked around somewhere else.
I just needed some website to start posting a story, and SH came up and wasn't RR. I heard RR uses your stories for AI training without a way to opt out. With all the other stuff I've heard about the place, I didn't see any reason to pretend the red flags aren't flapping loud in the wind.

I don't know how I feel about SH after half a year, but it at least has a real text editor unlike Honeyfeed.
 

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@TinaMigarlo So yeah, I did come here! :) Yesterday. Four chapters up. I'll post a couple more chapters today. The book is complete. But I'm really not asking anyone to read it. I've only decided that I'm going to drop the book from R R the moment they let me back on the site. Which sucks because it has three unsolicited reviews with another review expected this weekend. But screw it. I'm going to put a message on my R R profile telling people this is the last place on earth to find the books.

I know this place is smaller, but at this point I'm past caring. I'm so close to killing it for good that I just don't care at all.
 

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I think it is fine. I'm in my 40s, never tried to hide it. There are some younger ones here, but for the most part, I am guessing it's mainly GenX and millennials.
Oh wow, I never expected that we're around same age. I thought I was the only old folk lurking around here, hahahaha
 

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My books are very long, and I won't ask any of you to read them. Romance isn't big here, and I know it.

But the series (despite being fan fiction on its face) goes way beyond trite Twilight canon. It explores the interdependence of human and vampiric origins, the false allure of immortality, and the grace of ephemeral mortal creatures that have no choice but to rush toward completion.
The series is also filled with original poetry! (I'm more into poetry than prose.) Here is a short original poem from the series. It captures the essence of the larger theme. Read this, if nothing else.


          god has it easy

              truly

   what is there to admire
         in this vaunted omnipotence
this coveted immortality?
      naught but crutches
  for a stunted maladroit child
    who makes and ruins the world
 in takebacks and redos forever

       take your brat's eternal tantrums
  keep them hold them deify them
           if your faith confers solace
    for all the good it will do
        when time's fingers
clamp around your throat
     good luck to you
     and good fortune

   give me adam
        broken and spent
on the unfinished foundations
    of this one imperfect earth

  adam who has persevered
     his terror from his first breath
his mortal span a clockwork
           bludgeoned into the grave
   by molten iron rain

      keep  your    god
      with    his   falsity
      and petty dominion

   i'll take adam
      his foibles
  his futility
        his hubris
   and above all
        his brevity

     the half-wound
     stopwatch
   trapped within
    his mortal heart
 

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My books are very long, and I won't ask any of you to read them. Romance isn't big here, and I know it.

But the series (despite being fan fiction on its face) goes way beyond trite Twilight canon. It explores the interdependence of human and vampiric origins, the false allure of immortality, and the grace of ephemeral mortal creatures that have no choice but to rush toward completion.
The series is also filled with original poetry! (I'm more into poetry than prose.) Here is a short original poem from the series. It captures the essence of the larger theme. Read this, if nothing else.


          god has it easy

              truly

   what is there to admire
         in this vaunted omnipotence
this coveted immortality?
      naught but crutches
  for a stunted maladroit child
    who makes and ruins the world
 in takebacks and redos forever

       take your brat's eternal tantrums
  keep them hold them deify them
           if your faith confers solace
    for all the good it will do
        when time's fingers
clamp around your throat
     good luck to you
     and good fortune

   give me adam
        broken and spent
on the unfinished foundations
    of this one imperfect earth

  adam who has persevered
     his terror from his first breath
his mortal span a clockwork
           bludgeoned into the grave
   by molten iron rain

      keep  your    god
      with    his   falsity
      and petty dominion

   i'll take adam
      his foibles
  his futility
        his hubris
   and above all
        his brevity

     the half-wound
     stopwatch
   trapped within
    his mortal heart
That's good one actually, What i felt towards that poetry is leaned more on 'possessiveness'.
 
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