Play devil's advocate for tropes you like.

LuoirM

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Shouldn't devil's advocate be used for tropes you dislike? I know it can be either as long as it prolonged conversation but if it's for tropes you like then the word devil's advocate itself kinda loses its meaning

Edit: On second read, I couldn't find a better alternative word so you win
 

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Yanderes are what make up your personality; yanderes are in you and could wake up at any moment. The obsessive and possessive nature of them is also what you have. In all truth, everyone has some kind of possessiveness or obsession, so is it not fine if that obsession is just a tiny bit more?

I mean, "yandere" has "dere," which means a love-struck or affectionate attitude. So, is it not another way to express love? The same goes for tsundere, kuudere, and so on, but they don't have that "dere" that "yandere" has, the kind of love that is more beautiful, affectionate, and sweet than anything else. That kind of dere is something you would only express to someone whom you truly love.

So tell me, is it wrong to express your love in ways that would make your heart melt?

They will tell you that they love you. She will do anything for you, know everything about you and what you do. And you won't have to worry about ever being alone or forgetting anything. Waking up early to see someone greeting you is heartwarming. Imagine waking up at 3 AM to see her still by your side, ready to soothe you.

It is solace and comfort that you will gain through expressions of true love-nya.
 

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Yanderes are what make up your personality; yanderes are in you and could wake up at any moment. The obsessive and possessive nature of them is also what you have. In all truth, everyone has some kind of possessiveness or obsession, so is it not fine if that obsession is just a tiny bit more?

I mean, "yandere" has "dere," which means a love-struck or affectionate attitude. So, is it not another way to express love? The same goes for tsundere, kuudere, and so on, but they don't have that "dere" that "yandere" has, the kind of love that is more beautiful, affectionate, and sweet than anything else. That kind of dere is something you would only express to someone whom you truly love.

So tell me, is it wrong to express your love in ways that would make your heart melt?

They will tell you that they love you. She will do anything for you, know everything about you and what you do. And you won't have to worry about ever being alone or forgetting anything. Waking up early to see someone greeting you is heartwarming. Imagine waking up at 3 AM to see her still by your side, ready to soothe you.

It is solace and comfort that you will gain through expressions of true love-nya.
You're only bringing up the good points, and the love for yandere, and or any women that is madly and blindly in love with you is in fact, conceptually, owning a dog.

A dog practically is a walking stockholm syndrome, it loves you unconditionally and you don't have to do anything, and you like how it feels to be loved, especially when you're a loser like me who would take anything, hell, even a real hind-walking dog.

In a way, responding positively to a yandere is rape.
 

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and the love for yandere, and or any women that is madly and blindly in love with you is in fact, conceptually, owning a dog.
Well, when you put it like that, I'm sold. Bring me a yandere. You're pretty good at this whole devil's advocate thing. Just gotta remember to use the spray bottle when she murders people.
 
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Well, when you put it like that, I'm sold. Being me a yandere. You're pretty good at this whole devil's advocate thing. Just gotta remember to use the spray bottle when she murders people.
Hello, I'm one of those pathetic people who enjoys the easy way out... You're a yandere? Can we exchange discord info?
 

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Transformation/monster reincarnation stories! Many do them poorly, in my opinion. Especially, if the setup turns their mentality just into what they transformed. They make the new body align with their minds, often turning into straight-up psychopaths. It's hardly interesting if the result is just another monster that just does monster things. I find the idea of a moral monster far more interesting. Someone actually struggling with what the situation forced on them. Trying to find ways not to have to kill. Yes, one has to balance it with naivety, but if done right, it can make for a very interesting premise.
 

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Shouldn't devil's advocate be used for tropes you dislike? I know it can be either as long as it prolonged conversation but if it's for tropes you like then the word devil's advocate itself kinda loses its meaning

Edit: On second read, I couldn't find a better alternative word so you win
Technically the word would just be "advocate," as in, "Please advocate for a trope you like which many people dislike." Not as punchy, perhaps, but more accurate.

Anyway, I'm going to advocate for Fantasy Racism, because it's fallen out of fashion. Not only is it perfectly realistic for different cultures to maintain an inherent distrust of each other, in fantasy settings many of these "races" actually have (or should have) actual inherent differences which render mutual cohabitation, or even peace, impossible. Why would I be interested in a race of dragons who are basically humans but with scales? Let me see their pride, their hubris, their greed, their destructive and violent impulse. Contrast them with humanity so that we may use them as a lens through which to view ourselves.

Make your fantasy races wild extremes, and then acknowledge that said extremes render them incompatible with humanity. It doesn't even have to be good vs. evil, simply truthful. It's like the Arachnids and the Terrain Federation in Starship Troopers (the book). The bugs weren't evil, they were simply radically different from humanity, and the book was honest about the fact they, like every other living thing in existence, were competing for resources.

It is a total waste of time to introduce a whole fictional race and make them literally just humans with cat ears, and it is insulting to make them radically different from humanity, and then ignore that fact to try and rack up prog good-boy points.
 

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Trying to find ways not to have to kill.
Ew. Just sounds like another angsty loser-type MC on the verge of succumbing to "bleeding heart syndrome." We have more than enough of these types of Human MC's without adding a monster equivalent. Those awful "You should never kill" types. Sounds nauseating.

Monsters imply well...monster-like behavior. Find me the Lion that feels bad about mauling that gazelle for food, and then perhaps.

Adding human morals to a monster just ruins the very thing it is: a monster. Giving something intelligence doesn't also somehow grant it a brand new moral framework. If a Lion suddenly grew smart enough that it could talk, I wouldn't then expect it to start negotiating and hanging out with zebras. I'd expect it to start making itself EVEN MORE efficient at hunting zebras now that it has a new tool to bring to bear.
 
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Murder is good. Murder is life.

I mean, the fictional world doesn't have to be all grimdark where babies bite through their mothers or people eating baby stews.

But if you tell me no rape and murder in a superhero world, my thought is "the work is not for me, too censored for below 18".

Of course, remember that too many death cheapens life, too few cheapens its meaning or it is probably cheesy slice-of-life.
 
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