How do these things even get popular despite being so bad

AnonUnlimited

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It's due to easy wish fulfillment.
Who doesn't want 9 beautiful wives and immense power from a cellphone? Unless they're a masochist or an idiot they wouldn't want it.
Who doesn't want to open a cafe in another world where there are hot women and the chance for sexual success they can't get with the not as beautiful women in our own world?

The question is actually.... why isn't this more popular?
 

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Edit (1) : To quote words of a rant about readers from a fav CNauthor : "If some masterpieces in the past were published now, they would flop so hard"
This is very sad, but even more so scary. If some of the greatest masterpieces out there couldn't be successful then what chances do we have? Flip a coin and pray? I want to strongly disagree but I can't find a real argument against that take.
 

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And yet it doesn't matter because some people leave if the Waifu is poorly written, and some leave if they are written well
And then there are the "seasonal waifus"
This is very sad, but even more so scary. If some of the greatest masterpieces out there couldn't be successful then what chances do we have? Flip a coin and pray? I want to strongly disagree but I can't find a real argument against that take.
The CN author in question, talked about the worsening of "readers/industry"
and well, he pointed (very angrily) out that now authors can't write a non-handsome MC or FL.
And worse of all, can't write "green text" (NTR/raped heroine).

That + previous sentence (of flopping), it reference to a old chinese masterpiece of martial arts, that were very popular to a generation/country (to the point of having old TV shows,cartoon,movie,etc) where the heroine is "drugged" and raped offscreen, with her mistakingly think its MC (no bs tsundere trope at that time yet btw) and her being fine with it.
With this example, he called out that if this old masterpiece appeared NOW, it wouldnt "make a splash" (word for word quote)
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Also not really to be discouraged. Quality will shine.
Its just that nowadays you need to be BETTER than the "shitty masterpieces" of the past. Like the JP series with dense protags, series where MC let enemy live for 300chaps, MC confessing but SOMEHOW fireworks mute the voice, etc.

Baka to test, is kinda a half-recent modern masterpiece, but people that finished the novel, its meh bc early on its fun but soon its ez to see its just same loop all over again [Win others to be able to challenge class A -> Fight -> Lose against class A -> Go back to bottom - Win others - etc] multiple times.


I mean, there is this Introverted-HEROINE series currently in TRENDING.
And well, this series totally follow involuntarily all the tips that i mentioned in some threads about : Cover + Summary being GIGA important and bunch of other stuff. I repeated this stuff often before so now i stopped repeating it. You could try to find my words by search function (user"Tsuru"+"cover") if you are truly interested.
 

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And then there are the "seasonal waifus"
”I watch/read this anime/manga ONLY for the Waifu, and ONLY during [Season] even though it releases in [a different season]”
 

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Sometimes I feel that my writing skills are really bad and I won't be able to write good stories...then I see these

In Another World With My Smartphone

I Opened A Cafe In Another World

Isekai Cheat Magician.(https://www.novelupdates.com/series/isekai-cheat-magician/?origin=serp_auto)

Ultimate scheaming system


How the hell do these trash story even get popular???!!!

I can't speak for the written stories on some of these, but most if not all of these were adapted for anime, as I have watched some of them before. I thought the smartphone one was actually pretty good, as an anime, and excluding the 'harem' aspect of it, which I think wasn't done well.

Lots of these are designed to be built up really well on concept or bolstered by the initial premise of it, but many are not executed very well. Then again, perhaps a lapse in writing ability is kind of intentional if quick adaptation is the goal. With that said, it may work in reverse. Person sees the anime, notices the story here, and checks it out.

I didn't like the shows for cheat magical and cafe in another world, but again, I'm just talking about anime tastes. Never saw the writing myself.
 

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Sometimes I feel that my writing skills are really bad and I won't be able to write good stories...then I see these

In Another World With My Smartphone

I Opened A Cafe In Another World

Isekai Cheat Magician.(https://www.novelupdates.com/series/isekai-cheat-magician/?origin=serp_auto)

Ultimate scheaming system


How the hell do these trash story even get popular???!!!
Some media is just like that. There are good isekais like : Digimon, Alice in wonderland, Iruma-kun, etc. Then we have mister one dimension, his op cheat skills and his harem of children (There are too many of them for me to pick and list examples, so just look at B grade isekais released in last 10 years, there is a good chance whatever you picked meets the requirements.) There is also a worst, otome isekais. Your avarage girl gets reincarnated as a silver haired purple/red eye villainess as a child, out of fear of execution grooms half the nobles and royal family, but always ends with cold duke of the north, and I wish I joked about this.
 

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Smartphone shitsekai had so much potential to be actually decent maaaaan. Let me set the record straight and say I read and enjoyed up to volume 23ish when that first came out.

The worldbuilding in itself is actually pretty cool. The problem is that the MC is so god damn boring that it physically hurts. Bland as shit “okay, that’s what we’re doing, I will accept this without any input at all”. It really sets me off, since all the ingredients are there. City building, cool otherworldly monsters, cool lore, some decent characters (the twins are nice), and some okay power systems.

It’s just boring as fuuuuck :blob_sleep:
Iruma-kun, etc.

Goated series

Your avarage girl gets reincarnated as a silver haired purple/red eye villainess as a child
That’s craaaazy man. Insane, who would write somethin like that :blob_awkward:

Quickly hides my first two series
 
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In Another World With My Smartphone
I liked it in the beginning, straightforward and pure in a JP isekai sense.

Isekai Cheat Magician
Saw the anime once and never returned.

I am more of an Overlord kind of guy, thought the Eminence of Shadows was S-tier, and had always believed the Slime isekai had been overrated but still fun.
I Opened A Cafe In Another World

Ultimate scheaming system

The rest? i dunno them and have no plans of knowing them.
 

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I guess maybe I can make a story where isekaied wish fulfilment that exists is the work of a multidimensional cooperation

basically Earth used to have a lot of gods (and religions) all of whom mingled with humans and their bloods still flows in their descendants since their power was so high (and could potentially destroy the world) the gods forcibly removed magic from Earth and left to make other worlds

That's why people from earth are getting kidnapped by gods because they are top rate hero material and just need a magic injection
It also explains why they target only social rejects like Otakus,NEET, single run of the mill office workers since nobody will really miss or care about them if they die
 
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Here is why they are famous in Layman'terms: Fan service.

Here is a simple analogy: Take some old or random Gacha games you find somewhere, then compare them to MiHoYo/Hoyoverse games. Now look at them closely. The big key difference is the story itself. Not just the Fan service or character design to boost the player counts. But it also effects the players emotion inside in them, by playing them like a puppet. Which they did successfully in Honkai Impact 3rd. If you know CGI video called "Final Lesson", then congratulations.

For me, the anime above you mention, it's considered outdated by today. Since more people currently focusing what I said in the Analogy from the above.
 

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Sometimes I feel that my writing skills are really bad and I won't be able to write good stories...then I see these

In Another World With My Smartphone

I Opened A Cafe In Another World

Isekai Cheat Magician.(https://www.novelupdates.com/series/isekai-cheat-magician/?origin=serp_auto)

Ultimate scheaming system


How the hell do these trash story even get popular???!!!
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Sometimes I feel that my writing skills are really bad and I won't be able to write good stories...then I see these

In Another World With My Smartphone

I Opened A Cafe In Another World

Isekai Cheat Magician.(https://www.novelupdates.com/series/isekai-cheat-magician/?origin=serp_auto)

Ultimate scheaming system


How the hell do these trash story even get popular???!!!
They all appeal to a specific niche of storytelling. Smartphone is just a self-insert, and it works well as one so it becomes popular
 

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We live in a world where people are willing to pay actual money for slop like Throne of Glass, Twilight, and Fifty Shades of Grey. Why are you the least bit surprised that their standards for free entertainment are just as low, if not lower?
 

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Desperate amateur writers fighting impossible odds by going with the flow and creatively bankrupt studios exploiting them.
 

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Escapism, and you don't need to really follow the plot. Just look at the pretty pictures.
That's it, look at the harem full of what looks like school girls but who are actually adults.
. . . Now, don't get caught with that response as you're on a public train.
 

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If it gets popular on soyetsu then it will probably get an anime or manga adaption whether it's good or not.
 

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So, you get anime adaptation?
I haven't posted on soyetsu yet because it is required to be in Japanese and translating to katakana is difficult when you don't know Japanese. Also, that's only if it gets popular so I probably won't get an offer anyways.
 
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