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[AliceShiki]

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Oh, that one!

Welp~

 

[GM]

With regards to the whole sewer gas problem, why not just add into the lore that lamps were installed to prevent the gas build-up in the sewer?
I'm talking about these kind of lamps, btw.
It's just a thought, though...
'-'

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Well, it doesn't exist in lore at the moment, but someone could always add it in in their next sewer visit.

I am not suppose to know that. Tell that to @ohko that some things need to be set in stone.



I would not be having this convo if there was not a dumb evaluation of the quest.


You are kind of correct but open sewers by definition would not let methane to linger. Besides it is a fantasy world and after a point this just gets absurd. Also the things you guys have dreamt of are an arsonist dream.

You know what, to demonstrate the absurdity of what you guys want to declare for a fantasy world when it is unrealistic at best even for real world, I will write something in tavern. I hope @ohko you like it, it can probably start a new event.

I have stated my point of view already, if your evaluator insist that their commonsense is the universal truth of this game, all the you can do is re write an re post and justify in the report explain why its ok.

or complain to the @GM

but as I understand it as long as it's under the law of common sense of the evaluatior we have license to full fail any report. i am very happy to have that power

Well, I'm no expert, and sewer explosion is something like a fantasy at this point. It's so hard to make it happen, even with all the coincidences. I just said that it was possible, but it probably was improbable.

But sure, if it could be a new event then I'm fine with pushing the issue lol.

You know what is absurd? My post for slime murder in sewers also had fire magic and no one had issues.
That might indicate that perhaps, it is not common sense.

Individual evaluators have different grading criteria. Some like @Omnifarious and @Vanus are your bad cops, but do great jobs anyway. Then there's people like me who just mark the report as complete as long as the contents aren't rubbish. There's no need to have this conversation in the first place over how people grade quests and what---you could have gotten a fail rather quickly and had the time to write another, or you could have waited several hours and gotten failed anyway.

It's a failed report. We've all been there.

@ohko @GM and Everyone

"That bitch failed my quest for a ridiculous reason. I spent the whole fucking afternoon killing vermin in sewers only for that braindead ""receptionist"" to fail it." I complained to Constance.
"The sewer is not fucking flammable. If it was, the higher ups would have had enough sense to make it fire proof to prevent a literal bomb lying in city."
"That greedy bitch is probably trying to pocket all the money for herself. Other receptionists never have an issue so it is pretty clear she is corrupt." Constance tried to calm me down but not today.
"Does not this mean that being a fire elemental would be an auto fail? Has no one thought how absurd it is to not even mark that quest as not for fire elementals if it is oh so flammable."
"The worst part is that bitch had the gall to call me a liar. Apparently the score of rat tails were pulled out of my ass."
In my anger, I and my dolls started chucking fireballs into the open sewer. Nothing happened. And then the sewer exploded killing Vivis and Constance.

Most of the city was on fire. The whole sewer was burning. Places near the sewers caught fire and burned down resulting in extreme damage to city and death of lots of people.

@GDLiZy you can take it to freestyle as an open freestyle if you want.
@ohko You cab probably extend this into city repair, fight flames, question the architects of making sewers non-fire proof and other quests. My only problem with this report now is that it makes the bitch look good but oh well.

I feel like I missed this entire conversation while I was working on the Library.

I don't have too many things to add other than the fact that I think it's a little sad that it seems to be ending this way. @Ddraig you're really killing off your character?

I think in this sort of game, it's inevitable that there are going to be disagreements between the evaluator and the player. I realize it can be really upsetting, but the system does allow a certain degree of control for the player to choose their own receptionists through tagging. I also think it's fair for players to complain to their receptionists OOC to get it re-evaluated.

That said, I previously already made my opinion that I think receptionists should grade on the objectives of the quest (and not lore / especially not lore that isn't in the library), but there seems to be disagreements on the scope of what players to consider to be common sense.

I think I stand by @Generic.Archdemon's view that it's the evaluator's final say on what they consider to be their common sense.

That said, if you think that an evaluator consistently grades unfairly -- I think it's reasonable to ask them not to evaluate your reports, or find someone else to evaluate your reports... there's many approaches to resolving this issue.

I'm sorry I don't have anything much more reassuring to say other than that.

I do appreciate @Nahrenne's perspective that you can argue that there's something different about X section of the sewer, or maybe there's some different design feature. Nonetheless, the burden of convincing the evaluator sits with the player... and if you really dislike a certain evaluator... then make sure your reports don't make it to that individual in the future.

 

[GDLiZy]

No no the first mistake was your one remember that~

To be fair, I dusted the entire graveyard, and made sure that no one was around the vicinity of he graveyard, so I technically did the quest, and should have partial success.

Well, too lazy to argue, and it’ll fade away in a week all the same.

 

[Vanus]

To be fair, I dusted the entire graveyard, and made sure that no one was around the vicinity of he graveyard, so I technically did the quest, and should have partial success.

Well, too lazy to argue, and it’ll fade away in a week all the same.

*Puts on glasses and then tilts them so that you can only see the light shining off of them* You left the graveyard unattended for how long in your daydreaming state? Anything could have happened!

 

[Vanus]

Character: Reciful 'The innocent malice'
Lvl: 3 (900/1200)
Class: Chaos Bringer
Race: Eldritch Abomination

Quest name: Goblin Subjugation

Reciful, shall full fill the promise & shall bring vengeance, against the Goblins that killed Lilia~

Spoiler: Goblin Subjugation details

Reciful went to the nearby farmland, outside of the city... After all there is some sneaky goblin hidden somewhere in their fields.

The sky is wide in here, the sunlight reflects in the vast wheat field making a golden glow on entire land..... Is serene & beautiful.....yet Filthy goblins is hiding in here....Reciful shall murder those pest.

Since they are cautious, Reciful Act like a lost child wandering in the field! To bait those Goblins!... In short Reciful is the Trap herself!!

Few minute wandering, A Goblin really appear observing Reciful secretly. Reciful pretend to not notice him to lower his guard more.

Then when he is completely deceived that Reciful is just a normal child... He slowly approach Reciful from behind & smash Reciful in the head, with a rock the Goblin holds!...

Of course, it did nothing to Reciful. But Reciful play Pretend as if Reciful get hurt! & Act like Reciful lose consciousness! Falling on the ground.... Reciful did a great acting!! The stupid goblin is deceived by Reciful lies!

While at it, Reciful use this chance to infiltrate & find the location of their hideout So Reciful use her [ Chaos Whisperer skill ] to whisper idea/suggestion upon the goblins inner subconsciousness, creating a idea bring Reciful to their goblin hideout hidden in the Farmland somewhere in this vast field.

The goblin laughs & grabs Reciful foot dragging towards their secret place.... Without knowing he is manipulated by Reciful secretly~

****

​

After a few minutes the goblin dragged Reciful in a abandoned small shack somewhere in the farmland. In there he opened the rotten wooden floor revealing a secret passage underneath the ground.

Dragging Reciful in it, the underground place is not that big a size of a small room at best inside.... There is 5 more Goblins in total there is 6 goblins living in this place including the one Reciful meet.

Inside there is two more beings aside of goblins... To be specific two human female children... The goblins where all busy violating the two female children who have a lifeless look upon their eyes.

The goblins celebrating when they see Reciful being dragged by their companion, after all they thought they have a new seedbed....


Ehe ehehehe EheHehHEhEhehEhehe!!~ fiNallY RECIFUL FoUnD THeM~...now no escape... They received full Retribution for their sins~

Their celebration came to a halt, After all Reciful who should been unconscious suddenly stood up. Facing her back at them.... The Goblins all shout, alarmed. But~ sooooo sad its way to late... Do you really think Reciful shall give you a chance? did they really think they'll die a quick death?... Reciful shall make them felt 10× the despair they inflicted towards the innocences~

Moving Reciful head twisting her neck in 180 degree to look at the Goblins behind her.... Reciful says with a smile

" Let's play a game!... Let's begin~ "

Immediately Reciful fused entering the shadow of the underground room.. shallowing them in a imperceptible darkness of madness, malice, & primal fear.... Of course Reciful leave alone the 2 human children victims they are innocent after all~

Spoiler: Gore/Brutal?

Immediately after a weird darkness eat the 6 goblins. They found themselves in a place that even light could not reach.

Soon after, a very intense heav pressure containing extreme malice & evilness falls upon them as if crushing them... Many blood red Eyes, Sharp teeth mouth, billions of Tendrils & evil monstrous hand appear throughout this entire place space.

Then a voice of countless little girls speaks all at the same time, all with the same voice.

" Ehehehehe welcome~ welcome~.. to Reciful's domain!... Its impossible to enter here you know?... well Normally~.... But lucky you guys lives in a dark place & your souls & heart is as black as night... You all meet the requirements to enter Reciful inner world!... Thats why, now that you're all here... Abandon all hope for salvation! no one even God can hear your prayers while in here, the depths. "


Soon after all the hands & tendrils of various shape grabs & entwined the 6 goblins in all directions, capturing them. As they all lose their mind in insane fear that eats away their sanity.


" You like to violate female kind? Bad you know~ thats very bad... Reciful currently form is female so Reciful knew how bad it was!!... No You will felt the agony of being Violated in return to death~ you will pay for your sins~ but no salvation shall come to your souls"


Countless black tentacles break each of the goblins limbs as hundreds of Hideous Tendrils enters all the hole in their body wherever its their Tear sockets, nostrils, ears, mouth, genitals. They all enter deep in them Destroying them, from the inside. They felt that not just their body is being penetrated even their mind & souls is being brutally Violated without any remorse, without a single shred of mercy! None at all.

They will never escape this torment, even when their body is torn to pieces, their souls will suffer again & again without a stop~..

" How sad~... their mind is completely gone now~.... Oh well Reciful shall eat your souls now.... Thanks for the meal.. Ahhh~♪ "

*Chomp!**crunch**crunch**gulps*

" Ahh~ sinful souls really are tasty is it!!? "

Reciful Defeat 6 goblins hiding in the farmland in a abandoned shack near the forest~

Reciful Found 2 missing female kids... Captured by the goblins... And Rescued them & bringing them to the guild Cause Reciful don't where to bring them... Please help them~.




Signed: Reciful

I think you may have stuffed up your spoiler at the start?

 

[Epsil]

So... The one Epsil got failed for was part of a competition chain in a way, both him and Fen were trying to see who could make the smallest report possible... It was honestly hilarious to see how low they could go in order to make the word count as small as possible.

Once that was done, they started trying to reduce the character count~ *giggles*

Anyways, trying to search up the entire competition would be a pain, so... Here are the failure appraisals:


I still think it was really fun to see it all happen and I'm glad they went as far as they did~

... Nonetheless, the failure was deserved! xD

Anyways, as for the one I failed... Well, we don't talk about that one... >.>

It's part of the dark history of the guild and stuff, so it's the kind of thing best left buried in the sands of the past... >.>

I remember one report that was pretty badly written, wanna see it?

 

[Vanus]

I remember one report that was pretty badly written, wanna see it?

Not really no

 

[GDLiZy]

*Puts on glasses and then tilts them so that you can only see the light shining off of them* You left the graveyard unattended for how long in your daydreaming state? Anything could have happened!

According to logic, it is improbable that anything of significant could have happened. Also, it was an accident that occurred, and it still doesn't change the fact that I did have some partial success in the objective.

And no one is taking your quest so nothing will ever come out to hurt my Luna.

 

[Vanus]

According to logic, it is improbable that anything of significant could have happened. Also, it was an accident that occurred, and it still doesn't change the fact that I did have some partial success in the objective.

And no one is taking your quest so nothing will ever come out to hurt my Luna.

Sadly no one is taking it so I likely will let you off with a warning to never clear all workers from the graveyard again or else big consequences~

 

[Epsil]

Not really no

I’ll give you the evaluation at least.

*is sleepy*
*starts gets ready for bed*
*checks mail while brushing teeth*

"Huh? How did this report make it to my desk?"

*reads*



*rubs eyes*

*attempts to read again*

"...I'm not sure if I comprehend it... is someone playing pranks on me by sending me their wet dreams in the mail...?"

"...But then again the slime cores are indeed attached... so the quest was done...? So I guess it counts... though the report itself seems questionable... I've never heard of anything like this despite the dozens of slime subjugation reports we get every day."

*Marks half credit for poor believability. Please write with more clarity next time.*

EXP Gold Items 40 10G n/a

OOC:

• I know this wasn't stated anywhere in this thread, but please clearly mark/warn NSFW content in a spoiler to warn receptionists.
• SHF forum rules technically don't approve of NSFW posts, but I've been with Tony for long enough to know his rough feelings on this topic. A certain amount of NSFW is tolerable, but straight porn isn't.
• For Adventurer's Guild, I think it's fair to operate by ScribbleHub's content guidelines, which state that pornographic stories (or stories that are straight porn without plot) are not allowed.
• Personally, I think that NSFW (with marked content warnings) can be appropriate if it fits into the plot of a story, but it becomes PWP when the entire story is an excuse for porn. I hope that your future quest reports are not all pornographic. Thanks!

 

[GM]

I hope @ohko you like it, it can probably start a new event.

But sure, if it could be a new event then I'm fine with pushing the issue lol.

I am only going to declare those two and generic townspeople dead. Rosa will live. I will leave all the other npc's living status to their creators and super public npc's to collective vote of everyone.

It is only in tavern coz there is no "Adventure Guild - Event Starting Page" and people will just ignore freestyle stuff anyways.

A little strange to start a big event alone, but well, guess we'll have to see if others like it or not. I'm all for some natural disaster event, after all, the City itself never seemed to suffer anything...

Sounds like a petty excuse to start an event, and honestly it seems more like an act of magical terrorism. I mean, just think about it.

I'm not very enthusiastic about having such a poor event.

Considering I wrote it, probably not. Despite the fact that it is a logical extension of whatever they were backing up.

Well... I'm not really sure what to say.

I think people may be slightly misunderstanding the extent that I'm driving this version of AG. To some extent, I think this is the closest we've ever gotten to a "staff-less" AG, and that's fully the way I hope this game continues to run. Similarly, there isn't a "greater plot" that I'm pushing and I've stated before that I have no intention to get involved in any kind of events. This account's main role is write Guild Quests for the quest board... but otherwise I don't intend to take any heavy-handed stances on lore, events, etc.

If players want to start an event, then the community should get together to do it.

That said, any kind of event requires interest from the players... and it's hard to push an event when there's not enough interest in the player base.

It takes a lot of effort to plan, talk, and get a sense of what players want... because without those things sometimes it's hard to generate interest. I think each of us all have our favorite plots, and we know how hard it is to get other players interested in them! It's a similar issue with events.

Didn't we just get a new rule that three people is needed for approval for an event? Then again might not be official since Okho didn't confirm it to be in action.

"Event" probably wasn't the right word I was thinking of, in this case.

I was specifically thinking of a "Plot" -- like @Generic.Archdemon Archive's of Fate thread -- except on the Library Website.

If you have >3 players involved in a plot (e.g. Orphanage), then you can write it up and put in the Library.

 

[Vanus]

Well... I'm not really sure what to say.

I think people may be slightly misunderstanding the extent that I'm driving this version of AG. To some extent, I think this is the closest we've ever gotten to a "staff-less" AG, and that's fully the way I hope this game continues to run. Similarly, there isn't a "greater plot" that I'm pushing and I've stated before that I have no intention to get involved in any kind of events. This account's main role is write Guild Quests for the quest board... but otherwise I don't intend to take any heavy-handed stances on lore, events, etc.

If players want to start an event, then the community should get together to do it.

That said, any kind of event requires interest from the players... and it's hard to push an event when there's not enough interest in the player base.

It takes a lot of effort to plan, talk, and get a sense of what players want... because without those things sometimes it's hard to generate interest. I think each of us all have our favorite plots, and we know how hard it is to get other players interested in them! It's a similar issue with events.


"Event" probably wasn't the right word I was thinking of, in this case.

I was specifically thinking of a "Plot" -- like @Generic.Archdemon Archive's of Fate thread -- except on the Library Website.

If you have >3 players involved in a plot (e.g. Orphanage), then you can write it up and put in the Library.

Yay so the Crimson coins belongs still!

 

[Ddraig]

@Ddraig you're really killing off your character?

Yes I am.

I feel like I missed this entire conversation while I was working on the Library.

I don't have too many things to add other than the fact that I think it's a little sad that it seems to be ending this way. @Ddraig you're really killing off your character?

I think in this sort of game, it's inevitable that there are going to be disagreements between the evaluator and the player. I realize it can be really upsetting, but the system does allow a certain degree of control for the player to choose their own receptionists through tagging. I also think it's fair for players to complain to their receptionists OOC to get it re-evaluated.

That said, I previously already made my opinion that I think receptionists should grade on the objectives of the quest (and not lore / especially not lore that isn't in the library), but there seems to be disagreements on the scope of what players to consider to be common sense.

I think I stand by @Generic.Archdemon's view that it's the evaluator's final say on what they consider to be their common sense.

That said, if you think that an evaluator consistently grades unfairly -- I think it's reasonable to ask them not to evaluate your reports, or find someone else to evaluate your reports... there's many approaches to resolving this issue.

I'm sorry I don't have anything much more reassuring to say other than that.

I do appreciate @Nahrenne's perspective that you can argue that there's something different about X section of the sewer, or maybe there's some different design feature. Nonetheless, the burden of convincing the evaluator sits with the player... and if you really dislike a certain evaluator... then make sure your reports don't make it to that individual in the future.

Here is the problem for you to consider ohko to make this game better. At your first quest, you do not know how braindead or anti fun the evaluator is. Most players dont read everything either. To be a part of community, you would not mark a quest as everyone except @Ddraig. Atleast I would not.
I didnt have issue with anyone till then so I see no reason to mark it as only zoey or something.

I think I stand by @Generic.Archdemon's view that it's the evaluator's final say on what they consider to be their common sense.

Which basically means that the evaluator can do anything and no one can say otherwise. It totally would not be abused for being an ass or anything.

Anyways it has not been fun but it did make me excited to take part in this game. I dont see myself participating anytime soon now. Goodluck for the future of this game Ohko, you have been a wonderful gm.

@The_Everdistant_Utopia Reminds of you something? Looks like I havent learned much from that. Oh well, maybe next time.

 

[GM]

Ahh if only another person would use this new herb/fauna in their story and it would be bumped too the google article.

Hopefully someone does

*whispers* You should make a Custom Quest about it! It's a straightforward way to get people to interact with your new herb/fauna!

 

[Vanus]

*whispers* You should make a Custom Quest about it! It's a straightforward way to get people to interact with your new herb/fauna!

Custom quests don't get done!

 

[Reciful]

I think you may have stuffed up your spoiler at the start?

Thanks for the note... Fixed!

 

[Silver]

Custom quests don't get done!

*Stares at Nahrenne's custom quests.*

 

[Vanus]

*Stares at Nahrenne's custom quests.*

*Looks at all the not done ones*

 

[Reciful]

I wonder how it works?.... Asking someone to create me a weapon?

Do we have a blacksmith player here?

Or do I have to create a quest??

I'm not sure~

 

[Vanus]

I wonder how it works?.... Asking someone to create me a weapon?

Do we have a blacksmith player here?

Or do I have to create a quest??

I'm not sure~

We have a blacksmith player yes the guy with Adsil I think?