Question(discussion?) about entertainment, art, and so on.

[RepresentingWrath]

A few days ago I was talking with my friend. We had a small argument about TV adaptation of Witcher and different types of entertainment, art, goods and services in general. He said, as long as you like something(anything), you can go ahead and support it with your money. My stance is that like\dislike isn't enough. You should also look at the quality of the product. If it's good and you like it, go ahead and support it with money. However, if you like something of a bad quality, you should try to avoid supporting it with money. What are your thoughts?

 

[Corty]

If something is bad (and you dislike it) don't give it money. Period.

 

[RobBanks]

Well, quality might mean something different for different people.
Something that might seem high-quality to you might not be for someone else.

Ex: Amazing story and crappy CGI, or vice-versa.

Each of us might value something differently.

Furthermore, you may feel something you enjoy might be crappy, but a guilty pleasure. Or something that clearly seems to have hard work put into it might just not captivate you, even though it looks relatively professional.

Sure, if it feels like you're being ripped off and paying a high price for something that doesn't have quality, go ahead and stop buying it even if you don't mind the product itself that much.
Vote with your wallet, as it were.

But personally, I'll side with the enjoyment argument. Your personal enjoyment tends to dictate much of what you consider to be quality, anyway.

 

[tiaf]

if you have the money then...retail therapy

 

[RepresentingWrath]

If something is bad (and you dislike it) don't give it money. Period.

If you dislike something, you won't spend money on it even if it's high quality. What if you LIKE bad quality stuff?

But personally, I'll side with the enjoyment argument. Your personal enjoyment tends to dictate much of what you consider to be quality, anyway.

Won't such approach be detrimental in the long term?

 

[Rhaps]

As long as the series is fun and enjoyable, everything is fine for me. Though living as a pirate on the virtual sea, I just binge everything from shady websites and only pay if I truly respect the company producing the show. I don't respect companies.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

There should be a unified standard on what is 'bad stuff'; for all we know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are stuff that some people don't like, and is enjoyed by others. And, we are also aware that critics have their biases, so we can't say 100% their opinions/reviews are facts.

Then, and only then, we can implement the 'stop supporting bad stuff' by depriving it with money and other types of support.

Till that time comes, everyone will support what they think should be supported.

 

[RobBanks]

Won't such approach be detrimental in the long term?

I mean, clearly, it won't hurt me if I already like it enough to pay, right?

If later on the creator considers their costumers loyal enough to let some undefined aspect of 'quality' dwindle, it still wouldn't matter that much so long as you were still enjoying it, would it? What would matter is if the things YOU consider important were still there.

On the other hand, if the quality falls enough that people don't like it anymore, well...

They'd just stop paying by then, no?

 

[Corty]

@SailusGebel If you like bad quality stuff and you spend money on it, I don't see any problem with that.

You earned your money, you can decide how to spend it. If you like it then is it truly bad? I don't think you can like something that is bad. There has to be something in it for you that makes you spend money on it. Is it still bad then? I don't think so.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

I don't like things of bad quality, so I wouldn't know

 

[RobBanks]

There should be a unified standard of what is 'bad stuff', for all we know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

That is precisely the problem here, friend.

You CAN'T do something like that without inevitably forcing every work out there into an extremely orthodox little box where eventually every new book, movie and game will need to follow similar standards and guidelines, to the point they'll end up all looking and feeling the exact same.
Sound familiar?

Besides, many enjoyable works could likely be punished simply for not adhering to the hivemind, or common Hollywood social justice and 'beauty' standards.

Like so, big established entertainment industries & corporations and NPC consoomers would thrive forever all while indie creators and less orthodox customers would end up shoved into a corner of the internet to soak pitifully in their own degeneracy for all eternity.

 

[Cipiteca396]

The bad stuff doesn't get good if you don't support it. What the hells this rich get richer and poor get poorer mindset you've got going?

 

[greyblob]

that makes no sense. if this is an early work how will the quality improve if there is no profit? at the end of the day time and effort was invested. if there is no return then it's not feasible for the creators to continue.

I'd rather have something of lower quality that I enjoy than a souless, well-produced work indistinguishable from the rest that I'll forget 30s later

 

[RepresentingWrath]

The bad stuff doesn't get good if you don't support it. What the hells this rich get richer and poor get poorer mindset you've got going?

I don't have any mindset that is set in stone and would never change. That's the reason for making this thread, to see flaws in my logic. Also, every person, unless you are a sheikh, have limited funds. You can choose to support bad stuff, or you can support good stuff. And I think it does make a difference.

I would rather give my 200k views and good ratings to @Hans.Trondheim who deserve it. His works are of better quality, yet he doesn't get nearly enough recognition. And I don't even like his stuff, but judging purely on technicalities, his works are superior. Yet people with their actions endorse me to write more shitty stuff, while Hans deleted his novel from SH. Those readers lower the overall quality of SH works. Toppling big corporations or oligarchy with such mindset is not my goal. I just think that such mindset helps people who want and tries to give you products of good quality.

 

[Ssthat]

if you like it and want to support it, do so. You can do what you want, i'm not gonna stop you.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

People seem to misunderstand something. I'm not saying to support or pay for things of good quality even if you dislike it. I'm saying that if you like two things, but one of them is of higher quality, support thing of a higher quality. There is nothing wrong with liking bad stuff, and you can support it, it's your money and your time. However, in the long term it would be better to try and spend less money on bad stuff and more money on good suff.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

The difference between the smart and the poor is the standards of which is required for them to part with their money.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

The difference between the smart and the poor is the standards of which is required for them to part with their money.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

I rate mine base on quality, enjoyment, message, plot, and acting depending. If it doesn't get a high score on at least 3/5 of those then I don't bother. Though there are some exceptions where the enjoyment level is so high.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

I rate mine base on quality, enjoyment, message, plot, and acting depending. If it doesn't get a high score on at least 3/5 of those then I don't bother. Though there are some exceptions where the enjoyment level is so high.

I have to really question, what is “quality” when it comes to entertainment?