What makes incest fun?

[AnonUnlimited]

I understood the thing about the passage. As for incest being cool or not, we talk about fiction here, not real-life.

Yeah in real life I don’t think fornication, incest or any of that is good. In fiction it’s fun to read a train wreck.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

I understood the thing about the passage. As for incest being cool or not, we talk about fiction here, not real-life.

Well, incest is the only thing I can't separate from real and fiction. But it's not like I'm some crazy-ass preacher who wants to prevent everyone from consuming their fetishes just because it ain't my cup of tea.

Everyone sins. Everyone has their bad side. I understand. Laissez-faire. Simple as that.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Well, incest is the only thing I can't separate from real and fiction. But it's not like I'm some crazy-ass preacher who wants to prevent everyone from consuming their fetishes just because it ain't my cup of tea.

Everyone sins. Everyone has their bad side. I understand. Simple as that.

I understand the sentiment. I can’t separate boy love in real life and fiction.

but things like shooting people in video games I can.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

but things like shooting people in video games I can.

If only I won't be prosecuted from shooting, I've done it with our politicians here, including their entire clans.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Well, incest is the only thing I can't separate from real and fiction.

I will be honest. I don't understand what you mean by that. Incest is the only fetish you can't stand, no matter if it's fictional or not? Did you mean this?

 

[AnonUnlimited]

If only I won't be prosecuted from shooting, I've done it with our politicians here.

The secret service monitors everything on Internet forums. I will never talk about such things online for fear of accidentally writing what I don’t mean.
One typo and a guy in a black suit shows up.

so I prefer to talk about fiction and move on with my peaceful life.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

I will be honest. I don't understand what you mean by that. Incest is the only fetish you can't stand, no matter if it's fictional or not? Did you mean this?

I avoid portraying it in 'positive' light like those hentais you find in nhentai (fiction). Likewise, I abhor the parent/sibling who I find molesting my student in real life.

The secret service monitors everything on Internet forums. I will never talk about such things online for fear of accidentally writing what I don’t mean.
One typo and a guy in a black suit shows up.

so I prefer to talk about fiction and move on with my peaceful life.

Long accepted death. And everyone in our socmed talks about it, especially after Abe's assassination.

But you're right, I'm hijacking the thread. My apologies.

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

I understand the sentiment. I can’t separate boy love in real life and fiction.

but things like shooting people in video games I can.

Which is the strangest thing. If I tilt my skull sideways and stare a bit I begin to suspect a great deal of moral outcry about fiction comes from a sense of personal disgust rather than actual ethical/moral standards.

Blow someone's brains out with Mr. Plasma Scattergun 6000™? Sure, it lets the average joe live out their power fantasy, make the target a stand-in for the acceptable target/foreign entity of the week for bonus points.

NTR? It's degenerate repulsive trash because it makes me feel less "alpha". Me, a person who likely ran away to the land of make believe because I didn't feel "alpha" in the real world.

People projecting themselves too hard into the media they consume is part of the problem, but that's a discussion that's been had in this forum, I think, and we're veering off topic.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

I avoid portraying it in 'positive' light like those hentais you find in nhentai (fiction). Likewise, I abhor the parent/sibling who I find molesting my student in real life.

Long accepted death. And everyone in our socmed talks about it, especially after Abe's assassination.

But you're right, I'm hijacking the thread. My apologies.

You can say whatever you want I don’t care. I’m just stating why I’m not going to participate with all the deep state monitoring online in my country.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I avoid portraying it in 'positive' light like those hentais you find in nhentai (fiction). Likewise, I abhor the parent/sibling who I find molesting my student in real life.

Ah, so you equate incest to a non-consensual sexual relationship with an underage. Considering your job, it's understandable.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

People projecting themselves too hard into the media they consume is part of the problem, but that's a discussion that's been had in this forum, I think, and we're veering off topic.

It’s not off topic considering the poll question. A lot of outcry is from personal disgust howeverI do agree with children not having access to such topics.

As long as all participants are the legal age of majority for such content.

I really hate the idea of grooming impressionable aged children.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

You can say whatever you want I don’t care. I’m just stating why I’m not going to participate with all the deep state monitoring online in my country.

Ah, understood. But we're veering off anyway, so I'm stopping there.

Which is the strangest thing. If I tilt my skull sideways and stare a bit I begin to suspect a great deal of moral outcry about fiction comes from a sense of personal disgust rather than actual ethical/moral standards.

If you think about it, ethical and moral standards evolve, so yes I agree with your observation.

For example, before marriage between cousins are widely accepted, then by 20th century, only a few states and countries do that.

Ah, so you equate incest to a non-consensual sexual relationship with an underage. Considering your job, it's understandable.

Yep, and add to that my own values and beliefs, since I was raised in a conservative Christian family (though I'm a liberal Christian nowadays).

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

It’s not off topic considering the poll question. A lot of outcry is from personal disgust howeverI do agree with children not having access to such topics.

As long as all participants are the legal age of majority for such content.

I really hate the idea of grooming impressionable aged children.

Most certainly. There is a line, and it shouldn't be crossed, full stop. The risk for the societal acceptance and normalization of people with such proclivities and the potential for actual harm far outweighs any kind of artistic merit.

It's illegal for a reason. The fact that good artists and story crafters like the creator of Made in Abyss overtly feed such things is... vile. I've had a hard time applying death of the author to such works.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Yep, and add to that my own values and beliefs, since I was raised in a conservative Christian family (though I'm a liberal Christian nowadays).

Honestly I find the whole idea of Christian’s labeling themselves funny because there are no clearly defined definitions for “conservative” and “liberal, and I think there is a new term known as “progressives.”

As it relates to incest however, I don’t see the point in trying to defend Christian ideology against what is perceived public disgust.

What disgusts people changes, and so because something that disgusted someone 50 years ago is not disgusting to them now all of a sudden it is therefore okay and not needed to be defended?

i guess you could say I’m not big on relative morality and subscribe more to a universal morality.

however if I’m being honest, I’m not 100% certain how enjoying incest in fiction affects my actual thought process since I’m able to to separate it from reality.

As far as glorifying the idea of parent/sibling and child abuse I can see how some people who can’t separate fiction and reality could be inflamed with lust and go after it, but then again it’s not like the internet can gatekeep out the stable and mentally unstable.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Honestly I find the whole idea of Christian’s labeling themselves funny because there are no clearly defined definitions for “conservative” and “liberal, and I think there is a new term known as “progressives.”

Hmm...I guess I'll call myself a progressive Christian then. ?

As it relates to incest however, I don’t see the point in trying to defend Christian ideology against what is perceived public disgust.

What disgusts people changes, and so because something that disgusted someone 50 years ago is not disgusting to them now all of a sudden it is therefore okay and not needed to be defended?

You mean the shift in ethics and morality? Well, if you ask me, I won't waste a minute defending my perceptions and beliefs against those who question it. I take only what I need, and if it serves my purpose.

Otherwise, I don't care of how others live their lives, as long as it doesn't trample mine. And even if it does, I still apply the 'three break' rule.

i guess you could say I’m not big on relative morality and subscribe more to a universal morality.

however if I’m being honest, I’m not 100% certain how enjoying incest in fiction affects my actual thought process since I’m able to to separate it from reality.

Well, for me, it's like how you can't separate BL from reality. And add to that, my work deals with children, so I get to see the effects of real-world incest on them.

As far as glorifying the idea of parent/sibling and child abuse I can see how some people who can’t separate fiction and reality could be inflamed with lust and go after it, but then again it’s not like the internet can gatekeep out the stable and mentally unstable.

Hence, I do not go harassing people for liking their fetishes. Like what I said earlier, laissez faire.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Hence, I do not go harassing people for liking their fetishes. Like what I said earlier, laissez faire.

You sound more like a libertarian than a “progressive” if I go by my standard definition and understanding.

Then again the definitions may mean something different in your country than mine, this is why I find labels funny, and why I don’t care for them.

I have the same mentality. As long as you aren’t hurting anyone else, you do you.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

You sound more like a libertarian than a “progressive” if I go by my standard definition and understanding.

Then again the definitions may mean something different in your country than mine, this is why I find labels funny, and why I don’t care for them.

I have the same mentality. As long as you aren’t hurting anyone else, you do you.

Libertarian eh? Alght. I got no problem with that.

Yep, laissez faire is the way. Let others enjoy their lives, as long as it doesn't trample on others.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

this is why I find labels funny, and why I don’t care for them.

Said someone who made a separate, secret account to write smut.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Said someone who made a separate, secret account to write smut.

It’s for marketing. I don’t want my real name associated with smut when I’m trying to make money.

i may not care for labels but others do.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

It’s for marketing. I don’t want my real name associated with smut when I’m trying to make money.

i may not care for labels but others do.

Understandable. You need this account so that no one will understand that even someone like you can make a quick buck from writing smut. And at the same time, you pool the wool over the eyes of your friends and readers with your other account that writes 'serious' fiction that no one needs.
The plan is a bit convoluted to my liking, but if it works for you, everything is good.