Address to all the NTR’s not-so-lover

[BlackKnightX]

yeah, that's the definition of self-inserting. maybe pull back a bit - read things without a clear-cut mc. this is not very healthy, especially in the long run

Yep, I feel like the character can mold my personality or something. Maybe, I’m on the path of becoming a Chūnibyō!? No way! I refuse to believe this! I, the dark knight, shall ne'r receive 'i this whole bullshit syndrome! mark mine word!

I've just realized that the author is giving the readers the opportunity to self-insert and steal those characters, since they're canonically single.

Save the trouble of having to travel back in time right~? Lol

 

[SakeVision]

I've just realized that the author is giving the readers the opportunity to self-insert and steal those characters, since they're canonically single.

if they are single, and not ending up with second best option

 

[2021]

Nope. Being sad that your crush is dating someone else, is not ntr. But if you you were dating (Ha! As if.) and she started fucking, like Alabama family’s on Sunday, with some other man behind you back, yeah that’s ntr

 

[Irl_Rat]

I think regardless of whether something is ntr or not, the original topic taps into the personal insecurities of a lot of people. Because when someone you showed interest in rejects your advances, either directly or indirectly, and goes for another person, most people tend to reason that they were not enough. Whether it be looks, money, or personality, people will try to find a reason for the event, often coming to the conclusion that it was something outside of their control. Like dudes crying about being under 6 feet or girls thinking that men are pigs that only want colossal tits.

Generally speaking, attraction is a weird thing. Sometimes you could be the better option but the person is so used to seeing you as a friend that they can't process transitioning the relationship into something more. This can also exist in a simpler variant being "I just don't like you that way." It's a weird thing that I can attest to. I remember being interested in this girl when one of her friends managed to make it an incomplete love triangle. By all means, her friend was considered more attractive by most people and both were similar personality wise. I just couldn't feel attracted to her. Still can't really understand why.

 

[BlackKnightX]

I think regardless of whether something is ntr or not, the original topic taps into the personal insecurities of a lot of people. Because when someone you showed interest in rejects your advances, either directly or indirectly, and goes for another person, most people tend to reason that they were not enough. Whether it be looks, money, or personality, people will try to find a reason for the event, often coming to the conclusion that it was something outside of their control. Like dudes crying about being under 6 feet or girls thinking that men are pigs that only want colossal tits.

Generally speaking, attraction is a weird thing. Sometimes you could be the better option but the person is so used to seeing you as a friend that they can't process transitioning the relationship into something more. This can also exist in a simpler variant being "I just don't like you that way." It's a weird thing that I can attest to. I remember being interested in this girl when one of her friends managed to make it an incomplete love triangle. By all means, her friend was considered more attractive by most people and both were similar personality wise. I just couldn't feel attracted to her. Still can't really understand why.

I think I have a very strong grasp about attraction in real life. It’s never too hard for me to attract ladies, or pretty much anyone at all for that matter. I could just start the conversation with anyone and then become pretty close with them really fast.

Making friends, trying to convince or influence someone, finding sexual partners, or finding a girlfriend is very easy for me. All these come from experience, of course.

But when it comes to fiction, it’s different. I usually self-insert myself into the mc whenever I read a web novel, but the downside about that is that I don’t have any control over the mc’s mindset and action—well, obviously since I’m not the author.

So, that’s why it kind of feels frustrating when he doesn’t go for the girl that I like and try to do what I’d do in real life.

 

[KrisVFX]

How do you feel when the author introduces a certain character as the romantic interest—she could be a very cute girl whom mc has a slight interest in, but not to the point of wanting to go out with, and they’re definitely not dating—but then makes that character go out with someone else?

Do you think that counts as an NTR? How do feel about it?

I did this to one of my book, and many readers got pissed because a character was making out with someone else. (The female character was already in relationship so it was a one sided crush.)
In my opinion, I don't think it will count as NTR. But many readers will say otherwise as an excused for not expecting every female to be all over the mc.

 

[2021]

I did this to one of my book, and many readers got pissed because a character was making out with someone else. (The female character was already in relationship so it was a one sided crush.)
In my opinion, I don't think it will count as NTR. But many readers will say otherwise as an excused for not expecting every female to be all over the mc.

Because self-insert syndrom, ”If the mc doesn’t get all the girls, then-then-then my broken self esteem won’t be culled” annoying voice

 

[BlackKnightX]

I did this to one of my book, and many readers got pissed because a character was making out with someone else. (The female character was already in relationship so it was a one sided crush.)
In my opinion, I don't think it will count as NTR. But many readers will say otherwise as an excused for not expecting every female to be all over the mc.

I think most readers are like me—well, at least I think most web novel’s readers are like this—we read web novels for wish-fulfillment. It’s the place for comfort and the place to unleash all of your deepest or maybe even darkness desires.

For me personally, it’s not like I‘d fee jealous or feel bad when some other characters in the story going out with someone else other than the mc. What kind of bothers me, though, was when the author introduces that character as a romantic interest.

It doesn’t matter if the character is a woman, if she and mc don’t have anything with each other, then I don’t care much. But when it comes to the romantic interest, I kind of already counts her as an mc’s girl.

Doesn’t matter whether they’re together or not—It’s just a matter of time anyway—so when the romantic interest suddenly goes out with the other guy, that’s equivalent to an NTR for me.

 

[2021]

I think most readers are like me—well, at least I think most web novel’s readers are like this—we read web novels for wish-fulfillment. It’s the place for comfort and the place to unleash all of your deepest or maybe even darkness desires.

For me personally, it’s not like I‘d fee jealous or feel bad when some other characters in the story going out with someone else other than the mc. What kind of bothers me, though, was when the author introduces that character as a romantic interest.

It doesn’t matter if the character is a woman. If she and mc don’t have anything with each other, then I don’t care much, but when it comes to the romantic interest, I kind of already counts her as an mc’s girl.

Doesn’t matter whether they’re together or not—It’s just a matter of time anyway—so when the romantic interest suddenly goes out with the other guy, that’s equivalent to an NTR for me.

Nope. Most just want some cool plot. But for me fuck romance, return to adventure of the world

 

[BlackKnightX]

Nope. Most just want some cool plot. But for me fuck romance, return to adventure of the world

Speak for yourself~ lol Why do you think the so-called shitty isekai and harem genre are so popular?

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I think most readers are like me—well, at least I think most web novel’s readers are like this—we read web novels for wish-fulfillment.

 

[2021]

Speak for yourself~ lol Why do you think the so-called shitty isekai and harem genre are so popular?

Well Japan, China, Korea, yup, that the reason. Not America, we love guns more than women(romance)


(And I forgot to add, Super cringy edgy teenagers, who want to be super weirdos, and fill the empty void in their soul bruh, “like bruh my soul empty, ahhhhhhhhhh”) — But this is well sub area of it, but, this is true, in some aspects.

 

[BlackKnightX]

Well Japan, China, Korea, yup, that the reason. Not America, we love guns more than women(romance)

What are you talking about? Gun and fighting are a man’s romance!!

 

[2021]

What are you talking about? Gun and fighting are a man’s romance!!

No, animal petting

 

[BlackKnightX]

No, animal petting

Booty slapping is the truth of life, sir.

 

[Katsuya]

How do you feel when the author introduces a certain character as the romantic interest—she could be a very cute girl whom mc has a slight interest in, but not to the point of wanting to go out with, and they’re definitely not dating—but then makes that character go out with someone else?

Do you think that counts as an NTR? How do feel about it?

Ohhh~ I mean, no it dosen't. I mean, ntr- according to my little knowledge is 'cheating' as in cheating on someone, but in this case, there is no ''relationship' between the two, so it's not.

 

[Vaxel00]

The concept of NTR has been lost, it used to mean the act of stealing someone's lover or your lover being stolen from you. If the female character has no real relationship with the mc then I would not count it as NTR.

It does piss me off when the mc keeps simping for her; I don't know why authors do that, it's not endearing. Especially when the female character is written to be a hoe and the mc just displays how little worth he has bending over for her.

 

[Bartun]

How do you feel when the author introduces a certain character as the romantic interest—she could be a very cute girl whom mc has a slight interest in, but not to the point of wanting to go out with, and they’re definitely not dating—but then makes that character go out with someone else?

Do you think that counts as an NTR? How do feel about it?

I don't think that counts as true NTR, I mean if a couple isn't explicitly stated to be dating then they aren't a couple and therefore is not cheating, am I right? After all, all is fair in love and war.

Soap operas were infamous for the abuse of love triangles and the whole cheating-but-not-cheating way before NTR was cool. If the MC was female, expect to be "undecided" between all the male love interests, hook up one day, then feel "confused" and leave him the next day, then run to the arms of another one who has been patiently waiting, and so on, all while waiting for the handsome billionaire to finally make his mind and decides he loves her. If the MC was male, expect the femme fatale to try to steal him away from the main love interest, going as far as to seduce him just to spite her romantic rival. Our grandparents loved watching that stuff, it's nothing new.

The thing with anime is that, unlike in other media, great emphasis is put on virginity as a virtue. When someone loses his/her virginity it is considered "lost" to the MC, especially when tropes like "childhood friends" or "fated lovers" are taken into account. That's without mentioning cheating partners, that's another whole level and is true NTR. In western media, and also in real life, it is quite common for both men and women to sleep around until they find the "right" partner. It is not uncommon to meet your special someone with a body count around the dozen, and that's putting it mildly. Couples cheat, break up and get back together all the time, it's normal, it's accepted, and in some parts of the world is even expected. There is a saying in Latin America that says: "One doesn't eat the juicy watermelon alone" meaning that if your partner is someone with good looks, you shouldn't expect to be the only one "enjoying the fruit". Cheating is a fact of life, and it's striking when someone does NOT partake in those "games".

 

[celestialbeing90]

it defenitly doesnt count as an ntr! if it does its becase as readers we r put in the point of veiw of the mc so our mind gets deluded and thinks thats happening to us and the mc thinking is our own thinking!

I think most readers are like me—well, at least I think most web novel’s readers are like this—we read web novels for wish-fulfillment. It’s the place for comfort and the place to unleash all of your deepest or maybe even darkness desires.

For me personally, it’s not like I‘d fee jealous or feel bad when some other characters in the story going out with someone else other than the mc. What kind of bothers me, though, was when the author introduces that character as a romantic interest.

It doesn’t matter if the character is a woman, if she and mc don’t have anything with each other, then I don’t care much. But when it comes to the romantic interest, I kind of already counts her as an mc’s girl.

Doesn’t matter whether they’re together or not—It’s just a matter of time anyway—so when the romantic interest suddenly goes out with the other guy, that’s equivalent to an NTR for me.

yeh that the arthors fault for trolling the readers and pissing on their expectations!

 

[T.K._Paradox]

I don't think that counts as true NTR, I mean if a couple isn't explicitly stated to be dating then they aren't a couple and therefore is not cheating, am I right? After all, all is fair in love and war.

Soap operas were infamous for the abuse of love triangles and the whole cheating-but-not-cheating way before NTR was cool. If the MC was female, expect to be "undecided" between all the male love interests, hook up one day, then feel "confused" and leave him the next day, then run to the arms of another one who has been patiently waiting, and so on, all while waiting for the handsome billionaire to finally make his mind and decides he loves her. If the MC was male, expect the femme fatale to try to steal him away from the main love interest, going as far as to seduce him just to spite her romantic rival. Our grandparents loved watching that stuff, it's nothing new.

The thing with anime is that, unlike in other media, great emphasis is put on virginity as a virtue. When someone loses his/her virginity it is considered "lost" to the MC, especially when tropes like "childhood friends" or "fated lovers" are taken into account. That's without mentioning cheating partners, that's another whole level and is true NTR. In western media, and also in real life, it is quite common for both men and women to sleep around until they find the "right" partner. It is not uncommon to meet your special someone with a body count around the dozen, and that's putting it mildly. Couples cheat, break up and get back together all the time, it's normal, it's accepted, and in some parts of the world is even expected. There is a saying in Latin America that says: "One doesn't eat the juicy watermelon alone" meaning that if your partner is someone with good looks, you shouldn't expect to be the only one "enjoying the fruit". Cheating is a fact of life, and it's striking when someone does NOT partake in those "games".

That is sad outlook on love and romance. Call me naive and unrealistic, but I believe it is possible to be completely faithful to a single person.

I believe that two people can dedicate themselves to a partner, without 'needing something on the side'.
I also find cheating to be abhorrent, I could not possibly imagine doing that to someone.